We caught up with our good friend and SFC USA Director Josh Stock after giving him some time to settle back from the conference and digest his Thanksgiving smorgasbord to shed some light about his organization and what he does when he's not snowboarding at Keystone, which is hardly ever. If you've got a minute or ten, scope the interview below.
The Station: How was your Thanksgiving?
Josh Stock: Dude, scientists just finally watched and documented a star being swallowed up by a black hole, and they just found a planet super comparable to Earth 123 trillion miles away. A couple years ago I was super into reading these old sci-fi novels from the 50's because they're pretty entertaining and hilarious, but that was one of the things they always talked about.
There is SOME PERSON (I'm trying to find out WHO it is) at YAHOO NEWS who has the most incredible gift ever. The captions they write on their homepage suck me right in every time. They're so clever. I always find myself reading about something I'm only remotely interested in all because those captions are magnetic. Crazy! They should get paid more.
Can I ask you serious questions now? I'm not sure how much sci-fi talk I want to put in the interview
Oh, okay. Let's talk about real pressing issues
How did this year's national conference go?
Freaking SOOO awesome. We've been getting so many compliments from our chapter leaders. And I don't want this interview to be about me, buuuuut...For me as the Director, most of our leaders know that in years past, I've been stressed and frazzled coming into all the conferences because I have worked so hard to get everything organized from airport pickups to food prep to housing to speakers...and this year, the Station took care of so much of it that I went snowboarding a couple days leading up to the conference, hung out with my wife a bit. Haha. It felt crazy like a HUUUUUGE burden was taken off my shoulders in the few days before the conference.
I have NEVER felt that sense of "Oh my gosh, they're taking care of like EVERYTHING" in the days leading up to the conference.
What an UNREAL blessing, man. Honestly. I got to focus on ministering to the chapter leaders and really focusing on using the gifts that God has given me. It was a NEW experience, but an AMAZING one!
That's awesome to hear. It sounds like The Station and SFC have a pretty good set up going
Dude, it was so good for us.
People are the key, man. I mean, OF COURSE we love The Station. Every trip out there feels like it's too short and we want to stay longer. Not for the rad park or the adverse weather conditions, but because the staff is so rad. They love us, we goof off together, we worship together. We get deep, and we get silly. It's the best combo! The way we love each other and serve each other makes the difference. It sets us apart. They'll know we are Christians by our love, by the way we treat eachother. I love it.
Are there any new revelations or insights you gained from the conference that you'd care to share?
We talked a lot about the act of sharing our faith with people. Vic Murphy freaking brought it, too. He said a lot of challenging things, but what I took away from it is...I think in the Western world we shy away from sharing our faith because most of our fellow shredders only ever hear the bad stories about "church" and "religion" and how this pastor or church leader ran off with all this money or was sleeping around or some scandalous thing has been going on with this "organization" that sets itself up as "better than everyone else." I actually was talking to this new videographer guy on the chairlift this morning and he saw my drawing of Jesus on my board and was like "Are you like one of those RELIGIOUS guys?"
And that is usually how it goes. Everyone has already formed an opinion of what is coming next and I just said, "Dude, I think Jesus was a radical. I think we as the church have messed up and did and said some stupid and terrible things over time, but there is no denying that Jesus came and everyone was like WOAH, what?! This dude is DIFFERENT. He's either a good teacher or a prophet or God Himself or something, because he's a radical. And as hokey as it sounds, man, THAT makes Him worth talking about and studying. Dude was a revolutionary and everyone knows it. The Gospel He spoke was gnarly and called a lot of people out and they ended up killing Him for it instead of humbling themselves."
"And no matter how much people talk about don't do this and do that or you're going to hell, Jesus said that we could never manage it ourselves and that He had to come to be the ONLY WAY to get to Heaven. It's not about us, it's about Him, and so the kids call me the Reverend because I think Jesus is worth talking about."
I think that dude is gonna come eat free pie with us tonight. He seemed keen. But all that to say sharing our faith is really super simple.
That's rad. A lot of people don't always get it, but I suppose that's why there are organizations like SFC to shed some light and truth
And we get scared of what people are gonna think of us if we start talking about Jesus, but usually dudes will track with you and it's just getting that convo started.
So, give us a brief background/history of SFC And how long you've been doing SFC USA. How did you get involved?
It was super grassrooots the way it grew. Floyd and I met in Japan at Northstar Outdoor Adventures. He was there serving with the SFC Canada guys and I was with the SFC New Zealand guys. We jokingly talked about getting something started in the States and wouldn't you know, two years later God changed both our directions and we wound up here. We started SFC in Dec 2004 in Summit [Colorado] and we just wanted to shred here and start doing some outreach to all these seasonal kids who live here (an estimated 3000-5000 each winter). We didn't know what to do once we got here, and we would hang out at his [Floyd's] house once a week and invite whoever we met on the hill that week to come over for dinner.
We just started building relationships with people and noticed that there were some people that wanted to talk about Jesus who had believed at one time or who were just searching for something. As we made more friends, more people started giving their lives to the Lord or recommitting their lives and we were like, "Oh wow, now what?"
We started a second meeting every week so that we could have a hang out night AND a Bible study night. Then some people started moving away at the end of the season and said, "Hey, that was awesome. We need something like SFC where I live." And we're like, "Uhh, yeah. Do it. Get it going."
It came to the point where we were like, "Are we allowed to just tell people to go start one?" And so we asked the guys who run the Canadian and International SFC's and they were like, "We don't have an SFC USA National Director. I guess you're it." And I'm like, "Wow. Yeah, I don't know. That sounds heavy. What does that mean?" And they're like, "Just keep doing what you're doing." So we did. And it kept growing.
So what are you doing to get people involved with SFC and put them in the know?
Well, we decided at one point, "Crap, man. We should be raising up other leaders. I wonder how you do that." And we just started handing things off to dudes who had come into the organization and who had just been hanging around, like Seth Davies, and then it clicked. Jesus handed off the future of the Church, I mean like the HISTORY of HIS CHURCH to these eleven chuckleheads that were His disciples. And we're like, "Yeah, dude. God used those chuckleheads, why can't he use US chuckleheads?!" And so it began, handing off leadership and giving people ownership. This isn't OUR ministry, it's God's. Hand it away. Trust that the Holy Spirit is working in and through all of us. He's got it handled.
How are you all reaching the local shred communities? Do you guys host events and meetings and invite whoever wants to come hang out?
Yeah, we run different types of meetings. Super loose and unstructured meetings for people just wanting to hang out, cause people always just wanna hang out in shred communities. And then others that we hope to have a little more structured.
Building relationships and "reaching out" to the local shred community is literally as easy as this: "Meet dudes on the hill. Love on them. Encourage them. Remember their name and invite them to free pie night or something." We just build relationships with people by trying to be selfless. People notice and will eventually ask questions. You earn the right to be heard, and more importantly you develop real, genuine relationships with people.
What's the response been like?
If people come in and believe, we get them plugged into a local church body and then we say, "Hey dude, you wanna help us setup the miniramp? Just show up a few minutes early on Sunday." If they show and they're stoked, we try to help get them dialed. Most people in these transient resort communities are looking for a community. They want purpose and to just be a part of something. We have dudes who come back every week who still don't believe in Jesus but they'll tell us, "You guys, this group of friends are unlike any other friends I've ever had. Like, I can rely on all you guys." We just try to love on people without an agenda. They know we love Jesus, and they know we love them. Sometimes they decide to believe. Some don't. But we're doing our best to fulfill "Love God, love others." I think that's our part, man.
What are your future goals and dreams for SFC USA and SFC Summit County?
Wow. Yeah, the FUTURE...silver suits and flying cars and interplanetary travels.
There you go with the sci-fi again
Haha sorry.
I think we see it getting bigger as we go. Naturally. We obviously hope to continue learning from our mistakes. We've always operated on this trial and error method where we go, "Hmm, this might work. Let's try it." And it doesn't and we go, "Let's never do that again." Or we fine tune it or whatever.
We ultimately recognize that God is the One who has made this thing grow and if we really believe that it's His ministry, we're going to continue doing what we know He's called us to and see where He takes us. I mean, we don't want to get so stuck in OUR plans that we miss His, you know?
It's easy to go, "Yeah WE need this thing to do this." And then we miss His still small voice and His promptings. Planning in ministry can be good and bad in that sense. When people ask me, I always go, "Well, this is where He's brought us, and on that trajectory, I guess it's going to this point, BUUUUT...we'll see, you know."
Any last words?
Last words...hmmm, Jesus is worth talking about. That's my new slogan. Well, that and, "It's adventure time." But I think I like the first one better.
Shout outs
I wanna shout out to Jesus and my wife VALuable. And can I shamelessly self-promote my sponsors, is this where I do that?
This is definitely where you do that
It's a Jesus thing that I even have sponsors. He's given us so much rad favor with so many rad people in the industry. It's such a blessing to do this shred thing with all these guys. All of the SFC chapter leaders who do selfless ministry in a thankless industry. Walter at ZION Snowboards who has been nothing but supportive of me and SFC all these years. Shawn G at VANS whose supportive still blows my mind. Floyd now at Me.Glad, shoot. What can you even say? BFF. Justine, the team manager, and the entire marketing crew at KEYSTONE who keeps me around for who knows what reason. Brad at VonZipper. Wow. So many people to thank and show love to...sorry you can cut me off.
The Station, the Livin It Alliance, JSAW, LASTCLCK (go register right now), freaking, uhh, Adam, Randy, Snowflex, Dean at Chrstian Surfers...man. So many people feed into this thing. Jesus has been so good to us to let us take the reigns on this and have so many good people be a part of it.
I'll stop now. I hope there is something in there that you can use